AI, Bitcoin, Privacy, Elon Musk, and Midterm Elections

[Part 1 of 6] [00:01] [Music] [00:01] We've issued eight billion dollars worth of digital credit this year, and the most successful IPO of the year was stretch. It's STRC. It was two and a half billion dollars. I couldn't have done any of it without AI. If if we had not had AI, we would be eight billion dollars less. We five IPOs, none of them would have happened because I used AI to design the securities and solve all the tax problems and all the securities law issues. You know, so I like I'm a big believer in using AI to design new things. And I look, I'm just I I focus upon digital credit and security, but there's someone there thinking about how to make the car drive and cure cancer and like like aren't there like 100 million problems the human race has to solve that we've that you're like, well, you're going to need a thousand people with PhDs to solve that. Well, guess what? Now every 16-year-old has a thousand PhDs at their fingertips. And so I'm I'm very bullish. The world's going to be a much better place and and we're going to see an age of empowerment and and abundance because of digital technology. [01:13] People are greedy when they also try to acquire gold. Not really. I mean, people who buy gold are trying to preserve. [01:17] greedy centuries. We have centuries of people being greedy to go ahead and acquire gold. [01:23] Well, no, well, you're talking about to acquire wealth. Yes, people are greedy in that they want they want more things and there's nothing wrong with that. But when they're converting what they've earned into gold, that's not the greed part. That's the preservation part. I I I've I've earned all this money because I was greedy. Now I don't want to lose it. I want to store it so I can use it later. I don't want to blow it all right now. I want to hold on to it. And, you know, gold is a way to do that. You can't really do that in a fiat currency that's just being printed, you know, into oblivion. So, uh, but but, you know, but the greed is in the speculative frenzy that accompanies Bitcoin. [02:06] They tell me that I'm the reason they own Bitcoin because they listened to me years ago about economics, about sound money and and and the Fed and inflation, and I'm the one that got them. [02:19] Plus there's a lot of new technology in Midnight that's going to make the use of Cardano safer. Like Midnight passport will be the fastest, safest and easiest way to use Cardano. So we gain all the usability and transparency. Plus I'd argue Midnight is an essential component for Bitcoin. The Bitcoin D5. When you look at that side of it, you're like, okay, Bitcoin users, they want privacy. So Cardano could do a lot of the heavy lifting on the programming side, but where does the privacy coordination layer sit with all that? So we're actually working on with Progan our Bitcoin D5 setup. They we call it the the circle. So you start with Bitcoin and Caproot. I'm going to put 50 Bitcoins of my own money into this. It's pretty it works. So you start with Caproot and uh Bitcoin. You lend it to a stable coin. So that'll occur on Cardano through a specialized transaction through the token bridge. And then that stable coin would then be deployed into a yield bearing instrument. And then as you make yield, the yield is converted to Bitcoin and then it's sent to your Caproot. And then Midnight coordinates all of it with privacy. So you you have like all three networks working together and you have this circle and then from the Bitcoin user's perspective, you just give them a button, make money, click the button. And then it locks their Bitcoin, they just start generating yield. The security actually enters the Caproot on the Bitcoin network. So it meets my three rules that I have for Bitcoin D5. One, there's only Bitcoin. No other token. [03:40] Bitcoin, Litecoin is better money than than fiat, obviously. Also better money than gold. Like I think it's I believe it's the best form of money that um humans have ever come across. Right? Money being a good, being that it's um it's inflation proof, right? No one, no single person, company or or government can print more money, right? Can print money and then say the way the money you're holding, uh, you're storing, right? That's kind of one of the key things about money is if you work hard and you make money, you don't want that money to kind of disappear over time, not from your own doing. Right? So that's that's key and Bitcoin, Litecoin and uh most cryptocurrencies, um, is able to to do that. [04:26] I could have the argument that real estate's better than Bitcoin. For a number of reasons, by the way, depending on who you are. Um, your audience would probably disagree because they're probably a bunch of, you know, Bitcoin maximalists. They don't have as much Bitcoin as the real estate guy, by the way. [04:43] No, I I'll tell you right now, hold on, one second. See, that's the funny thing, dude, that me and my brother were talking about this yesterday. You know, the guys that know the most seem to have the least. [04:55] 100%. That that I can probably agree with you on. This should be a bigger issue within the crypto system and the ecosystem. What do you think? [05:04] I think it will be. I think privacy is going to be the the new, if you want to in my view, and this is what I'm tasking the investment professionals at Mailstrom just sort of figure out. I think that the stand out shitcoin or, you know, few shitcoins of 2026 to 2028 will be related some way shape or form to privacy. We already saw the, you know, amazing move of Zcash over the last few months. Yes, it's down 50% from the 780 high, but I think again, my goal is, you know, my mental model is 10 to 20% of the value of Bitcoin. That's Zcash. Um, and so, so much higher than where it is today. But, you know, you know, taking away Zcash, what is the token project or protocol that's going to utilize some privacy technology, probably something related to ZK or knowledge proofs to do something whether that's quantum resistant, you know, over that can't de-anonymize your data or, you know, see what we're doing, whatever it is, right? These are the things that we're latently afraid of. Of of what bad things that could happen with this proliferation of Big Tech, Big Government and [06:14] Donald Trump getting elected, knowing that we share friends in the White House for all the populist parties of Europe who are under attack. Every single populist leader, if you look at the leaders, and my last document was called Silence. I got 18 months in prison for my last document. The reason I ended you was because the document was so bigger than me. It's exactly what they're doing. North there has been waged against if you go through, I pick any of them. Pick Hut Builders, the leader that the Dutch party. Pick Marine Le Pen. Any politician in Europe, yeah? Anyone, pick anyone who has stood up and tried to speak against immigration and you will see a history. [06:52] What first got you excited about blockchains? Think about it. Oh wait. I bet it wasn't multi-million dollar hacks, exposed data or finding somewhere safe to store your seed phrase. Was it? Maybe it was the idea of decentralizing a broken financial system. Maybe it was imagining a world where people own their own data and get to share in the value it creates. Or maybe it was a promise of a fundamentally better way of connecting, communicating and transacting. The next phase of the internet that empowers us instead of exploiting us. So why hasn't it happened yet? We're still living with the same broken system that blockchains promised to fix. It's because blockchains can't keep a secret. Enabling open transparent systems was only the first half of the challenge. For blockchains to really change the world, they also have to be able to protect our sensitive data when it matters. And that's why we build Midnight to bring down the final barrier to mass adoption and unlock the full potential of the decentralized web. Let's build the internet we deserve. Together. [08:11] Ladies and gentlemen, we all know this in crypto, ownership matters. That's why Cake Wallet. Cake Wallet gives you full control of your digital assets, all in one easy to use application. You can store Bitcoin, Litecoin, Zcash, Monero, and many more with just one secure backup. Swap between coins in seconds. No copying addresses, no complicated steps, and even includes Bitcoin Lightning for faster payments. And with Cake Wallet built in, you can use crypto in real life through debit cards or gift cards. Simple, secure, self-custody. Download Cake Wallet and take control of your crypto. [08:54] This is Houston. T minus one minute until full data blackout. All eyes are on you. [09:09] Breaking news. There is an astronaut conducting an emergency repair on a global communication satellite that could go dark at any moment. We have a second angle on this. [09:20] Is that guy on FOMO? Oh yeah. Yeah, let's get back to it everybody. [09:39] Breaking news. There is an astronaut conducting an emergency repair on a global communication satellite that could go dark at any moment. [09:47] Opportunity cost is simply this. Every position you take is a position you choose over something else. [10:01] This just in, according to the astronaut's FOMO account, the highest in the room, the satellite has been restored. [10:09] Yes. For now, the crisis appears to be over. [10:26] Satellite's up and running. Position's looking good too. [10:42] There we go. United States of America representing. Socialism does not work. Digital assets is it better to move money at the speed of light. People are greedy when they also try to acquire gold. I am here providing electricity and that energy that is necessary. I am the modern day Thomas Edison. [11:01] [Music] [11:08] [Music] [11:13] Welcome to the breakdown. [11:18] Welcome. I'm I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. Welcome to the breakdown episode uh what is it? 807, 807. Oh my god. [11:29] Why is the sound so loud today, man? [11:33] Welcome, welcome, sponsored by Midnight. Midnight is the title sponsor. Also sponsored by Polymarket, Cake Wallet and FOMO. We are here. You can go ahead and watch us on X, formerly known as Twitter. You can also watch us on TikTok, YouTube. Where else? Getter. Um, Instagram still not. I don't know what's happening with Instagram, okay? I I I've tried everything, okay? I've tried everything. I I I got to speak to Mark Zuckerberg. That that's what's going to happen here. I got to go ahead and speak to Mark Zuckerberg because I don't I don't know. I I give up. I give up. I give up. But, guys, you can cop, okay? You can go ahead and get. You can get you can get on Amazon right now. You can get the million dollar AI playbook, okay? The playbook written by your own David Gokhshtein. There you go. Give my give myself a round of applause. [12:45] Um, I'd like to, before we start the show and we talk about everything that's happening. Uh, by the way, shout out to everybody who tunes in on Apple on Apple Podcast, Spotify, I Heart Radio, and also, uh, Amazon Music. Shout out to you guys. And shout out to anybody who replays the show. By the way, also, real quick, TikTok told me that my live streams should be back. They looked at my account and they made the necessary changes to make sure that my live stream goes out there to the general public. So we shall see. We shall see if they're true to their word, okay? True to their word. All right, listen. Hold on. I got to look up something. I got to look. All right. Sorry. Sorry. I I do those kind of things. I stop and pause real quick. I wanted to see something. That's right. Time will tell. All right, um, before we get started, I wanted to I'm I'm only laughing because I did it to myself. All right, yesterday, yeah, I've been working this entire weekend. Working from the standpoint of working on, um, projects, working trading a little bit, but I'm not really trading. I got to tell you guys, I'm really not trading much. I'm really not. I got my I got my, uh, majors. I got things that I'm in already. I I I think I'm in I I I really think I'm in this really in in this hold phase. Uh, and I'm just waiting maybe for the right opportunities. Everybody thought today we were going to go backwards. I said bullish week. We we look really bullish. I I would think we look bullish. Um, the markets look healthy from all sides, whether it's crypto, traditional markets and whatnot. So, um, no, the only reason the only reason I'm laughing is because I'm like I'm studying AI, obviously. I'm writing I'm writing my I'm writing two more books. This is the beginner's book, okay? This is the beginner's book for those who don't know how to get into AI. It kind of scared of it. You don't know where to look. Right here. I'm telling you right now. The other books that are coming are obviously it'll be more than 88 pages. Probably like 200 and something to 300 and something. Those two books that do come out. Where we get into prompting and what you can Anyway, I'm not going to give it away. So I'm doing all this stuff. And I I go over I go over somebody's house and they have pizza. Now, you guys know I'm training. I'm back to working out. I don't look at pizza. I don't I I I absolutely do not allow myself to look at pizza. I don't. But it was staring at me. The pizza was staring at me. I tried to walk away three, four times. It got me on the fifth time. I ate pizza. Now, let me say this, man. You eat pizza. I woke up this morning and here's the problem. I woke up this morning and I and I just couldn't couldn't get out of bed. I don't know how you guys do it. Eating all these pizza, McDonald's, like all this stuff. I don't know how you do it. I couldn't get up. I could not get up. I tried everything. I I tried everything. I couldn't get up. It literally took me for I'm laughing because it took me 45 minutes to get the fuck up. I'm telling you, I I saw this pizza pie, right? I saw this pizza pie. And you know, I'm watching the Giants game yesterday. And the Giants lost, but I got to say, J.J. McCarthy, he was slinging it, boy. He was slinging it. We'll talk about the game later. And, um, my my, uh, my well wishes go out to Jalen Hurts. Even though rival, Philadelphia Eagles, not a fan of that team, obviously. Division rival. But Jalen Hurts got, um, diagnosed with multiple blood clots, uh, in his lungs. So obviously it's a serious situation. Forget about sports, it's a, you know, that's a human being. And, um, he'll be out for the rest of the season. That's, you know, unfortunate. I know some fans celebrate this, but not, you know, you want to play the best comp, okay? Like you want, you as an athlete, if you if ever stepped onto the ice, to the field, if you ever played sports in general, you want to play against the best, man. You know, you ain't wishing somebody, you know, something like this, taking them out. You know, he might not even play, you know, honestly, he might never play again. Blood clots in the lungs, you know, you know, and he flew on a plane over, I think it was over to whether it was Germany or London, I think they played, um, I think they played in Germany or London. So that that's crazy. That that's crazy. Um, and he played. So well wishes to Jalen Hurts, obviously him and his whole family, man. Uh, those are the kind of things that you don't want to see. You don't want that to happen. So there you go. I'm not going to play the sound effects or anything like that, but, you know, that does suck. So Philly's going to have to find the quarterback. Um, I know they, uh, picked up, um, what's his name? He was on the practice squad for for Dallas. Uh, is it, uh, is it, what's his name? He has a rocket of an arm. He played at, I think he played at Tennessee or Texas. Anyway, I'll get his name later. Anyway, well wishes to Jalen Hurts, man. Uh, a lot of people right away, they said COVID, COVID shot. I don't know. I won't get into that right now. Anyway, market looks well. Let's go ahead and, uh, talk about the market. Shit. God damn it. I got to I got to get out of here to go ahead and talk about the market. Uh, let's let's talk about what's new on the market. By the way, shout out to everybody. I want to give a big shout out to everybody who tuned in, uh, every Friday on Twitter. I hold after the show, after Friday's show, I hold a space for 30 minutes, but it went for three hours. And it really is a recap of what is happening, I guess on this show, what we're talking about, what topics are we touching on, myself, the guests that come on here. And we were talking particularly about, obviously, digital assets and AI. And what AI, uh, is capable of doing, how people, if they get serious about it and they start reading books like this, what they can go ahead and do when it comes to, um, you know, creating businesses for themselves, helping businesses, solving, uh, problems that businesses are currently facing, uh, in the real world today. So, we talked a lot about that, touched up on that, talked about, you know, the good old days, crypto, um, it was fun. It was fun to go ahead and and shoot the shit with some of the OGs, OGs in the digital asset space. It was nice. Um, we we touched on everything and speaking of that, we have we have, uh, somebody coming on here today, an OG who has, uh, taken five years of his life to build out a a project that is now slowly getting the recognition that it deserves. That is Jungle Bay. We'll have Sakasa on here at 1:15 p.m. Eastern time. And we'll talk about everything Jungle Bay Island. Uh, we'll talk about Bela. I'll have some questions. This won't be, uh, you know, I I think people expect me and and Sakasa to laugh it up and and the conversation will be there, but I'm I will ask him questions because we have an audience here who doesn't participate on X spaces. They don't just go onto, you know, they don't participate just on Twitter. We have people from YouTube, we have people from, uh, TikTok. Wherever they're from. We have from other streaming platforms, people tuning in and and LinkedIn and and all and, uh, they want to know what it is. They want to know what it is and and we'll we'll discuss. Um, and that's what I'm trying to find here right now. Speaking of that, I'm trying to find this shit right now. Give me a second. Where the fuck did this shit disappear to? Everybody got their popcorn ready? You got your popcorn ready? Should we play, um, yeah, I still can't get over. I still cannot get over, um, Jack Duval dancing. I'm still laughing. Oh my god, I'm still laughing. I am still laughing about that. All right. Let's, um, let's talk about Bitcoin tags 83K. Then slips, weekend bounce meets 84K ceiling. Bitcoin climbed from an overnight low near 80,700 to just above 83,000 early Monday, then slipped back to around 82,400 within about a half an hour. Later, uh, later morning, Prince put 8. uh, Bitcoin. Is it Jack? It is Jack. Uh, around 82.5, 82.7 and Ethereum near, uh, 24.20 to 40, uh, 24.30. Um, we have analysts that called the move a rebound, not a trend, uh, resume, noting that 50-day moving average near 81,000 has caught every dip since last Tuesday. 83K is still above 1,000 short of the 84K ceiling that turned price twice last week. Uh, so why does this matter? Uh, crypto is trading like high beta tech again. A clean reclaim of 84K would say that Nasdaq rebound is staggering and dragging, uh, BTC with it. Failure keeps the 80 to 84K box intact. Again, it's the 50-day, uh, moving average defense short covering versus, uh, fresh longs. Um, AI stocks rebound into earnings week. Meta, Tesla, Netflix on deck. We also have Warsh still won't tip October markets price 86% pause. So right now, the markets believe that we will not have a rate hike. 86% lean towards no rate hike. Might be a good thing. I don't know. You got to remember, last run, the last real run that we had, we had multiple rate hikes. So, either which way we go, either which way we go. By the way, I had friends text me while I'm watching the game yesterday and they're like, bro, what the fuck is happening with the market? One minute it's going down, the next minute it's going up. What is happening with Bitcoin? What is happening with Ethereum, Solana? What is happening with the crypto market? It's every market. Not just one market, it's every market. And you have to understand,

[Part 2 of 6] [David] [00:00] Bitcoin, Bitcoin and this entire crypto market is volatile. That's it. Volatility is by the way, volatility is what brings a lot of people into these markets in the first place. Traders love this. Traders love the volatility that are that that's going on in this very market, okay? So like no worries. Relax, chill out. Enjoy. By the way, if you're holding and you believe that things are going to 100k, 200k, like I'm talking about Bitcoin. If you believe that Bitcoin is going to 100, 150, 200k, then what the fuck are you worried about? You're not trading. You're not a trader, you just spot buy. You're not not scalping. Okay, you're not you're not looking at charts or candlesticks. You know, it kind of blows my mind when you guys are out here panicking when you're spot buyers. Why would a spot buyer panic? Like why are you panicking? Relax. Fucking relax, sit back, enjoy the fucking moment. Know that you're in early. And listen, if you got liquidity, like I always say, if you got liquidity on the side, then take advantage. Take advantage of what you see as an opportunity. If you listen, for me, when I see Bitcoin, I'm hoping that Bitcoin pulls back. See, I'm somebody I'm bullish I'm always bullish. Anybody who knows me knows I'm always bullish. At the end of the day, I hope that it pulls back. I I would love to see Bitcoin at 67,000. You guys would shit your pants. I I would be like, perfect. Some part of me still feels like I have not bought enough Bitcoin. As crazy as that sounds. I want more Solana. Solana hasn't pulled back and we go back into the 80s, I'm game. Give me 80 $80, $85 Solana. I've been waiting for this moment. It's like, man, like y'all y'all have to understand what market you're in. You really have to understand the market that you are in and the market that you're participating in. And not be scared of it. What are you scared of? It's nothing to be scared of. If you believe, look, here's my thing. If you believe in crypto and you believe in the majors that you've gone into, whether it's Bitcoin, whether it's altcoins, if you believe in this, then you're not scared. Can you lose? Yeah. Nothing is guaranteed. Life's not guaranteed. How many times have I said, life is not guaranteed? So nothing's guaranteed. Nothing. Zero. But we take we take our chances. We take our chances, we go in. And that's it. Me personally, how many times have they told me Bitcoin was going to die? Bitcoin is dead. We've heard it. OGs have heard it. Bitcoin has died 93,461 times. By the way, I think Solana is the the really is the sleep. Out of everything that's out here, and there are others, don't don't get me wrong that'll do it maybe a 1,000x, a 2,000x, a 10,000x. But I really believe that Solana is a major sleeper. I made it I made it a thing for myself. I sat back and I said, especially when I saw Solana at the lows. And I remember I was still in in enjoying the Twitter spaces, and I say that sarcastically. I was enjoying the fuckery and people screaming at at each other on spaces. For those who don't know what spaces are, and those who are going to tune in on the on the replays on the podcast streams like Apple Podcast and Spotify. X spaces are a thing on Twitter where you can speak to people and not see them, and you can scream at each other for no reason. And I remember a time while people were screaming at each other, where I was like, look, Solana's dirt cheap. I am going to take a flyer on Solana. They continued to build. I I talked about even even when I was given the phone shit. Like the phone came out, I was like, I'm not buying this phone, right? And people Solana maxis who I know were trying to sell me a a fucking a Solana phone. I knew that these people within the Solana ecosystem were really creative because they started to use the phone. The phone started to sell out. And and they started to use the phone and and use the memes with the phone. And if you had the phone, then you would get an airdrop of certain like And I was like, yo, these motherfuckers are creative and it and it almost feels like they got that they got that creative spirit that Ethereum heads had in the beginning. So I was like, listen, you know what? I'm not fighting the market. I'm not going to fight the market. I'm going to get in. And that's it. I was telling people like, get in. Nah, man, Solana's dog shit. I'm like, so let's say hypothetically, you don't have to like Solana. But what if Solana goes up? Here's my thing. When people say, well, I don't like this, I don't like that. My thing is to you, what if it goes up? What if this asset that you don't like? Because you guys, you know, y'all came here for money. You came here for gains. What if just what if if it goes up? How do you lose? So, it was the same thing, you know, it was the Solana thing with me. It was like, if people are gambling, there are a lot of things. If people are gambling on Solana, if people are going on pump fun and all these platforms and and people are going on to Bonk and and buying into Bonk. I'm like, why not? I'm taking a flyer. And then I started to talk to people like Anthony Scaramucci. A lot of institutional heads or a lot of people that are close to the institutions. And they're like, we're building on Solana. Which made me even step more on the gas to get more Solana. I was like, yo, this make Okay, hold on. Anthony Scaramucci, who's a big head when it comes to Algorand, is now talking about building on Solana. Not that he's going away from Algorand, but he's talking about Solana. And he's talking about they're building on Solana. So, hold on. And you have like the Michael Arrington's and like a bunch of VC. I'm like, I'm going to fade people with money and with connections. They're not trying to sell And he and these conversations by the way, these weren't conversations where they were trying to sell me on something. No, these were just regular conversations. Just regular shooting the shit combos. No inside information, no bullshit like that. It's like, hey, people are doing this right now and there are people who are trying to get into crypto. They're looking over here. Besides Ethereum, they're looking right there. And I was like, yo, this is easy. This is easy. This is a layup. So, while everybody was screaming at each other, smacking each other over the internet. I don't even know how that's even possible. Making diss tracks. Like like y'all getting paid from your record labels and shit. Like, I can understand if you guys are getting paid like thousands of dollars a day to go ahead and battle. Diss tracks and all, you got your A&Rs telling you, yeah, yeah, yeah. Go ahead. Throw another diss track. None of that's happening. The smart people were looking at the situation, assessing the situation and saying, you know what? I'm getting into this situation. That's it. I I saw it from a mile away. That that was more so confirmation. Think about it. And it really like I'm going back to the old the old times. Man, if if y'all weren't if you had money and and all you were doing is acting like a bitch on social media, and right now you're feeling like a bitch because you're all out of place. You don't got Bitcoin, you don't got Ethereum. You got a little Solana. The rest of your portfolio looks like dog shit. Whose fault is it? You want to blame you want to blame the KOLs? You can't even blame a KOL. You can't blame the influencers. You got to blame, you know who you got to blame? Your parents. Your upbringing sucks. That's who I'd be blaming. Your parents. Besides blaming you, okay? You blame your your your goddamn parents for the way they raised you. Or maybe they're not at fault. They tried. Maybe they tried. Maybe you got bullied in school. You can't blame the KOLs for everything. At the end of I despise the KOLs. I despise influencers, but at the end of the day, you can't blame them. How many times did I I would say this in spaces. I would what are you guys arguing about? Are you guys buying into positions? Are you front running the markets? Fuck you, Dave. What you know? You don't bring value to the space. Okay. All right. Pull up right now. Goddamn it, pull up. Meanwhile, David's writing books. Million dollar AI playbook, okay? You can get that on Amazon. Go to Amazon, you can cop the the first book, okay? The first book. Beginner's book for people that really want to get into AI and understand it. Layman's terms, okay? Layman's terms. Shout out to me. Panama Panama I can't go to the back. Custom suit. Welcome to the breakdown. So a lot of things are happening. Bitcoin's chopping. Ethereum's chopping. We're holding this area. Hopefully we break above 84,000. But this is the time where everybody in the digital asset world has to sit back because you only got, I'm telling you, you got 60 to 90 days left before we probably flip bullish on the charts. Here's your time to sit back and say, okay, I got money. Where should I put it into? And you know what? How about you pull out your your ports? Pull out your ports. Look at your ports. I say this all the time. Look at your ports and say, are these things that I have in my wallet right now going to produce absolute phenomenal results for me? Or do they have a chance to go absolutely parabolic? These are the things you got to ask yourself. You really got to look at some of these things that you're in love with and and see if you're the only community member left. I I'm not even trying to be funny. Are you the only person in the Telegram? Are you the only person in the Discord? Are you the only person that shows up when you open a spaces or a clubhouse room? These are the things you need to ask yourself. Okay, I'm an XYZ. How many people are here? Let me go look at the X community or the X chat. Oh, I'm in this. I'm in the X chat. There's only four people. The dev's not here no more. That might be a sign. I don't know. Just putting it out there. That might be a sign to leave. But motherfuckers do what motherfuckers want, right? You do what's best for you. At the end of the day, you'll do what's best for you and you should do what's best for you. But if you are the only person, if they have made you the administrator in the X chat, I'm telling you right now, I'm giving you hints. If you are the if you are in XYZ and you have now become the administrator with three people left in the chat, I am telling you, you might be in the wrong project, okay? If that's what you want to call that shit. A project, you're in the wrong project. If I look at the things, I always take a look. By the way, I am always looking at my port. I'm always making sure there's the communities. The community's still hype. I'm always looking at the devs. Are they still building? Is there still communication on social media? Is shit being put out there? I don't give a fuck about the chart right now. I don't care about the chart. Chart is icing on the cake. I'm looking at, are there new people jumping in? Are they are are are people communicating with each other? Are we These are the These are this is what I'm looking at. Are people making their own art? The dopest projects, I keep saying this. The dopest projects in our space, the things that last, the things that become multi-cycle, eventually overtake the developers or the devs or the leaders. It's the truth. If you look at the greatest digital assets in our space, at one point, you talked about the person that created it, and then a few months later if it's successful, you don't talk about that person no more because it takes on a mind of its own. You have a bunch of people that take it on. They take on the personality, they take on the they take they take on the vibes of the of the community. They build out the that's what you want. You want to find that project. You want to find those projects. Bottom line. If you're a trader, do your thing. You want to trade, you want to lose your hair, you want your hair to turn gray at 24, you go ahead and do your thing. You want to lose your hair at 24, 25, do your thing. I ain't going to stop you. I'm just telling you, look, the way I go about it, I look at the and I don't even talk in chats, but when you throw me in a chat and and then I'm made an administrator and I'm the only person in there, it's time for me to leave. That's really it. That is really it. AI. AI is big. Besides the digital aspect. You know, AI, it's I said this on a space on my space on Friday, which was supposed to be 30 minutes. It turned into three to four hours. As usual. I said, AI will give people that have great ideas the ability to execute those ideas. Now, will you win out? Again, I have no clue. Do you have a better opportunity of having your idea succeed now? Absolutely. Because if you think about it, before AI, before AGI, before AI agents or bots, you would have to hire people and you're depending on people to align and understand your vision. To have your line of thinking. To have your aggressive nature, to have your drive, to have the ability to go ahead and execute like you can. And you got to pay coders, developers an enormous amount of money. So you are taking a hell of a chance. And I respect that. By the way, I respect every single entrepreneur that has poured in money. I've been there. Poured in money. And has taken a chance on their dreams, but a lot of people have really good ideas. They're like, yo, this is going to cost me 200 grand. Where am I going to get 200 grand from? Now, you have Claude, who is amazing. Claude is amazing at coding. You have OpenAI, you have Grok. You have so many things to help you. See, you can't say, you can no longer say, you can no longer say that I don't I haven't gotten a fair shake. Okay? Anybody you now see out here who tells you that they have not gotten a fair shake in life, like they can't execute on their opportunities because the world's against them type shit. These are people you want to get away from. You want to get away from these people. You want to block these people because these people are lazy as fuck. These are the people that complain on welfare lines. That is on chain welfare, by the way. These are people that complain and you want to move away. Like slowly move away from these people. Because then you'll get this disgusting virus onto yourself and you'll start doubting you. Also, speaking of AI. Elon came out, uh, I believe it was early morning and said that um, he wants to give every single child in the United States of America, I believe it's in the United States of America, or it might be the world. I think it's the United States of America. One stock of SpaceX, which would come out to be $10 billion. Can we give a round of applause for Elon Musk? Here's a man worth trillions of dollars on paper, doesn't really give a fuck about money at this point, is trying to take us to the next level, take human the human race to the next level. Electric cars, self-driving vehicles, Neuralink helping people with disabilities, Starlink, you're probably using it. The Boring Company digging tunnels under under highways and Bro, what hasn't this man done? SpaceX. This man like if you want to be an entrepreneur, like he's the blueprint. He is literally the he is the blueprint when it comes to being an entrepreneur because the amount of times that people said he would fail, Tesla would fail, SpaceX would fail, everything that he touches would fail, and it hasn't. That's entrepreneurship. Even your own friends are going to tell you, you're going to fail. He finds a way to succeed, man. He is I got to say, he is a a legend. Now, apparently he might have beef with Jeff Bezos. Elon mentioned over the weekend, maybe I should go ahead and start my own Amazon. Yo, don't piss Elon off, man. Wikipedia pissed off Elon, he made Grokipedia. Okay? Like, this man will make things This man will make things and he'll make them better. He will absolutely make them better. It is it's crazy to watch. I wouldn't if I have a business, I'm trying to be friends with Elon. I'm not trying to be enemies with Elon. Okay? I'm not absolutely not going to fuck around and find out with Elon. He will take it the distance. He will take it the distance. But it's nice that um, so the reason I brought that up, $10 billion worth of stock given out to kids to kids in the United States of America. That is that is unbelievable. And people are still complaining that it's not enough. Yet he said in his tweet, more to come. And he's encouraging other companies like Anthropic to follow his lead. So here's a man who's saying like, hey, more to come, encouraging others to do the same, and people still bitch at him. And this is what I say. You no matter if you're doing well, if you're doing good or bad, people are still going to talk. People are going to still find or figure out a way to put you down. It doesn't matter what you do. Elon saving like literally, Elon has Neuralink saving, helping people like people people are doing things again that have been disabled in some way. No, not good enough. I am telling you. You got to take on the mindset, especially as an entrepreneur as, you know what? At the end of the day, not everybody's going to like you. But you're doing this because you want to do this. You want to create things that solve things. I think you I think people got to get in that mindset. You got to create things that solve things. That's it. Got to create assets that or or companies that solve things. So shout out to Elon. Okay? He doesn't have to do any of this stuff. Have you seen any of these rich people do anything? No. But here's Elon. That doesn't need to do any of this shit. Just casually comes out on his own on his own network, okay? On his own platform and says, I am going to give $10 billion worth of stock to the kids. I don't know. I don't know, man. Uh, by the way, China's Q3 GDP, uh, 4.5% export engine beats uh, property still broken. Summary, China's GDP grew 4.5% year over year in quarter three above the 4.4% Reuters poll and up uh, from the 4.3% in quarter two, CNBC uh, that reported that. Uh, nine uh, nine-month growth uh, average 4.6% inside uh, Beijing's uh, 4.5% to 5% target. So, uh, September's uh, retail sales were up uh, 1.1% uh, obviously, that news came out, it was bullish for the entire economy. Whether you like China or not, it was bullish, the markets reacted bullishly. Um, and why that matters, Asia risk on and softer oil helped Nasdaq futures and Bitcoin overnight. Lopsided China growth is also a reminder that global demand story is factories and exports, not consumers. So there you go. Um, spot Bitcoin ETFs, 910 million out in two weeks. October deep red. I thought it was October, man. I thought it was October. US spot

[Part 3 of 6] [00:57] Rest in peace, Scott. Who's Scott? [01:07] Um, why this matters? Spot bounced while the primary Wall Street bid kept, uh, distributing. Uh, price and ETF flows are telling, uh, different stories again. Uh, so again, [01:22] A lot it's it's crazy to see Bitcoin is currently at this price with 900 and 10 million dollars in outflows. I want y'all to think about that. This is how strong Bitcoin is right now. [01:39] This is how, ooh, you got to be bullish if you're in Bitcoin. And you got to be bullish if you're in the markets right now because $910 million this month, this month, outflow. Not inflows, outflows. You know, I said this, uh, a few weeks ago. I said, [02:01] We're going to get up to a certain point in Bitcoin to where it it will be I think it was what? $84, $85. What was it? $87,000 I think was the $86, $87,000 was the price point where people were buying ETFs and where people can break even on their ETFs. So this could be people obviously selling even breaking even on their Bitcoin ETF. I'm telling you, [02:32] and it's still hovering in the 80s. Bitcoin is still hovering in the 80s with with that happening. And I believe that with that right now, I believe you have people that might not believe in Bitcoin exiting or, you know what, they're exiting and waiting for a different position to go ahead and get in. [02:57] Again, volatility, the streets love it. The streets love it. [03:06] So, anyway, welcome to the breakdown. What else is there, by the way? What else is there to go ahead and cover? [03:18] Uh, by the way, JP Morgan brings JPM coin, deposit token to Ethereum. So JP Morgan's token or coin will be riding and pegged onto Ethereum for its institutional clients. Uh, first launch November 2025 on base. Now supports peer-to-peer transfers across the EVM stack including Ethereum and base. So there you go. Uh, the biggest US bank [03:50] putting deposit liabilities on public rails is the Trifi meets Ethereum story of the day separate from the price tape. So you have JP Morgan that is officially come out here and said, we are putting our token on Ethereum. Okay, it was created on base. It's on Ethereum and base. You're going to have transactions peer-to-peer liabilities happening on Ethereum and base. Bullish news, right? Bullish news. [04:27] Midterms, by the way, midterms, T-minus two weeks. Trump had a record low approval. Gas politics dominate. [04:36] So two weeks, we are two weeks away, ladies and gentlemen. Two weeks away from the midterms. If I got to tell you, if you are voting, if you are going to vote for these Democrat communist, [04:51] you've lost your mind. [04:54] I mean that. [04:56] You really have lost your minds. Now, again, all everywhere you look, Polymarket, you look at polls, they have the Democrats sweeping. Okay? The Democrats are sweeping both the House and the Senate. I believe, I really do believe this. Here's what I believe happens. [05:18] I believe obviously the Republicans will show up because the Republican Party shows up day of elections, okay? That's the that's the Republican Party. The Republican Party, Republicans do not trust the system. They are going to show up the day of the elections. Okay? That's when they're coming. So they're not sending in mail-in ballots, okay? They are coming. [05:43] I also believe this is what's going to happen and I think this is what the polls are missing. Every single person that did not and I'm talking about the Democrats. When you had the primaries and the Democrats had two people to vote for, a Democrat or a Democrat communist, [06:02] the Democrats who voted for real Democrats who had their candidate lose, I believe they will vote for a Republican because they do not want to vote for a communist. And that is not being counted into this entire situation. I believe 100% that you will see a big time possibility that the Republicans hold not only the Senate, but also the House. [06:33] Guys, are you not watching France? Are you not watching Italy? Are you guys not watching what is happening in these countries? [06:44] This is what happens when you have open borders and you let everybody in. [06:49] They're you know, these people are out there protesting. [06:56] Right? You're protesting about certain issues. And that's great. You should be able to protest. [07:02] Where does it where does protesting come in where where where does looting come into protesting? Burning down [07:12] things that were made 150 years ago. Like where does that coming come into the protesting part? [07:20] You have poor these poor owners of stores. They're living day-to-day. They their stores are getting looted. What what where in the where in the fucking protest is that? [07:39] Be very careful. You might not like Trump and and that's a fair thing. You don't have to like Trump. You don't like Trump for your own reasons. Okay, no problem. [07:50] You have a choice though. You can continue to live in a great country like the United States of America. [08:00] Where we value other people's opinions, where we have freedom of speech. We have a lot you might not you know, you might not like a lot of things in America, but you are able to talk about them. [08:12] Okay? You are able to come on here. I I come on here and I'm able to talk about these issues. You're able to go on social media and talk about these issues, okay? Go look at these other countries. They're not able to talk about shit. Their countries are being overran by migrants. [08:30] Do as you wish, man. I'm still counting on the sell to help us. Anyway, [08:36] It is it is 1:15 PM. [08:44] We actually had two or three guests, notable names that wanted to come on today. And Friday, I I looked at my schedule. I see that there's an opening. That there is an opening here. And Sakasa was in the space. [09:04] Along with others, and we were having a conversation. I said, you know what? Let's uh, you know, I have the platform. I have people that tune in here. Let's let's showcase, let's talk about this thing that he created. What's this thing he created, by the way? What is this thing he created? What is this thing that we're going to talk about today? [09:29] Anybody know? Anybody want to take a wild guess? Let's bring him in and ask him. And these these aren't some, hey, I'm going to give him some layup questions. Because this ain't that kind of show. Okay? This ain't that kind of show. We ain't doing layups. [09:48] But let's bring in Sakasa. Sakasa, what's going on, brother? [09:51] [Guest: Sakasa] DG, my dog. Yo, it's so good to be your third choice, man. I love being that bronze back up, back up. That's fucking dope, man. Appreciate that. [10:00] Hold on, hold on. So let me finish that, right? [10:03] [Guest: Sakasa] Yeah. [10:04] There are other people that wanted to come on and I said, no. [10:07] [Guest: Sakasa] Obviously, but yeah. [10:09] No, no, no. I could have said, Sakasa, I'll I'll send you off for, you know, maybe January. [10:14] [Guest: Sakasa] Dope. [10:16] Thank you, bro. It's great to see you. [10:20] It's great to see you too. [10:22] [Guest: Sakasa] Let's talk, my man. [10:23] Yeah, you might want to go ahead and turn I hear myself talking. Are you in the Tesla currently right now? [10:28] [Guest: Sakasa] No, hold on, Billy. If that's the case, let me put on my fucking uh, ear pod or whatever. [10:33] Yeah, put on your put your 9 9,464th edition of your your goddamn uh [10:41] [Guest: Sakasa] Is that better? Is that better? [10:43] Yes, that's better. That's better. Uh, Sakasa, it's a pleasure to have you on here. We obviously chopped it up on Friday. I I do my Friday, uh, recap spaces for the whole week of having these shows. [10:55] [Guest: Sakasa] So fast. Yeah, the 30-minute space. 20 minutes, the favorite, the yeah, 20, 30 minutes. 784 years later. [11:03] Yeah. That that was fun. [11:06] [Guest: Sakasa] Yeah, it was great. [11:07] That was fun. It's always fun. [11:08] [Guest: Sakasa] I want to see you back there more. We're trying to clear out the fucking rats and come guzzling contact there. Um, to be able to make sure that it's safe, it's a safe zone for DG to bring his talents back to the gutters. [11:22] Uh, [11:24] [Guest: Sakasa] Sakasa. [11:26] All right, listen. If you don't know who Sakasa is, here's Sakasa's bio. Sakasa, brick by brick, MFer. Okay, he has [11:36] [Guest: Sakasa] Yeah. [11:37] You know, it doesn't matter how many followers he has, but he has 22K on X. Um, you can visit junglebayisland.com. Also, memetics.wtf. [11:50] [Guest: Sakasa] Memetics.finance. [11:53] I have memetics.wtf. [11:55] [Guest: Sakasa] He's both of them. Memetics.wtf is Jungle Bay Island. Excuse me. Log in, walk into the island. Memetics.finance is how you uh, enter the the island sculpted DFI fucking zone where you uh, where we we make sure everything is preserved on shore and none of these extractors are able to uh, to cuff our our fees, etc, etc. [12:22] You see what look, I'm sitting here right now and I'm trying to give Sakasa's bio out, right? And [12:29] [Guest: Sakasa] Yeah. [12:31] He's he's he you are definitely a Democrat, right? 100%, right? [12:37] [Guest: Sakasa] Stop it. Stop it. What are you talking about? What would give that indication, dude? [12:42] Well, because as I as I'm flowing here trying to tell people about who Sakasa is, see, there goes the this is this is what I'm accustomed to when we go on when I would go on spaces and I'm talking and he has the mic as well, [12:43] [Guest: Sakasa] Look at you. [12:59] You'll you'll you'll be a bunch of people will be talking and he's just sub-talking. Like it is it is it's an art form. [13:07] [Guest: Sakasa] Dude, I've I've been all fucking underneath motherfuckers so people can read between the lines and actually get that potent dankness through the fucking fog, you know what I mean? [13:18] Sakasa, um, because we haven't talked about this. You you came on last time, but we really didn't dive, uh, deeper into Jungle Bay Island. Uh, we didn't we didn't really touch, uh, on [13:34] [Guest: Sakasa] Yeah, you didn't you didn't put you didn't put a snorkel, you know what I mean, grab some coconuts. You know, check out the jungle juice section and shit, you know what I mean? Like you just kind of you went you were on your your Disney cruise line just fucking going by with your with your, you know, Asian tourist binoculars and shit just waving at us. Look at looking crazy on the island, but it's good to have you back on shore. Um, not that you ever left, but yeah, let's let's uh, let's dive in a little deeper, you know what I mean? Maybe put on take off those water wings. [14:07] So, at this point, I should just start drinking. Um, so, and and by the way, for those that will tune in on Apple Podcast, Spotify, iHeartRadio, and Amazon Music, uh, Sakasa is an OG out here. He'll never change his PFP. He'll remain an MFer. Uh, regardless [14:33] [Guest: Sakasa] It's the roots of it all, you know what I mean? [14:35] Yeah, it's the roots of it all, you know. It's his personality. But, [14:40] [Guest: Sakasa] All right. [14:41] An extension. So let's have this conversation. Let's have an open conversation. [14:45] [Guest: Sakasa] Yeah. [14:47] [Guest: Sakasa] Yeah. [14:48] Jungle Bay. [14:50] Five years ago, [14:53] [Guest: Sakasa] Yeah. [14:54] Why why did you grab it when it when it went to zero? No, seriously, why out of I'm sure you could have grabbed other NFTs. There are a bunch of other NFTs that, you know, were dumped off by, you know, the original creators, devs, Fiverr artists, whatever. I'm not calling that I'm not saying that about Jungle Bay. But I'm saying in general, you could have grabbed anything else. Why Jungle Bay? [15:18] [Guest: Sakasa] So, this was in late November of 2021. Um, and uh, at that time, there was just rug central. People were just figuring out with minting. NFTs were a very different beast between 2019 and 2021. And uh, Jungle Bay came out of a different rug. It was a bunch of people got together, we put together a Dow voting system. Um, community fucking sourced the art, decided the the name, the the the the trade, whatever it was, right? And it was a great idea and the idea was to be this this counter to all these high mint extract excuse uh, projects that were just raking in bread and they gave up when shit got a little uncomfortable. The and and you know, so we we launched it. It was just a group of people that, you know, invested a little bit to to to start it all off. And then in 2022, when things started to get a little dismal, when that frost started, you know, when World of Women floor started going down, Cool Cats started going, all these blue chip memes or NFT projects. People got desperate, people got thirsty, people were trying to take from this, you know, this this meager uh, but but not insignificant pile that we had put together, um, to to fund trying to scale strategically as a, you know, fully community run project. And uh, at that time, I was just like, man, I like this like Jungle Bay as far as the memetic resonance of it as a brand. I thought really fucking slapped. And I liked the idea of this the island idea came a little later that but but so I there were some devs, the other other people on the gnosis had different intentions to start scraping out uh into their pockets. And I saw some such shit going on and I just had to buy them out. It cost 20 ETH to get full control of the of the project. Um, it was a a crazy stupid investment, but it was what needed to be done to get all the keys back, the keys of the Discord, everything, right? Get get on the gnosis and then it was just me and and my my dog Ghost who lingers in the background and helps a lot with the technical stuff. And uh, from there, it was like [17:42] So, of course, you 20 20 ETH, what was 20 ETH at that time? [17:47] [Guest: Sakasa] Not insignificant. Not insignificant. Um, it was it ETH was probably in the threes. [17:55] You know what I mean? [17:55] The $3,000 was, you know, I just want to put I want to I want to put that in perspective. I don't even look I try not to look at, uh, the USD amount of whatever it is that I hold, but I just want that to be put into perspective for those who do still look at that. So 20 ETH at 3K. [18:15] [Guest: Sakasa] And the chart was going down. Everything was going down. But I really see something I have, you know, I have experience with early stage growth, guerrilla marketing. Had some success with that in the past since 2012. And I really thought there was something unique here and I have been inspired by the Mfers in this kind of buy your own bootstraps, focus on the art, the builders, no one's coming to save you. And so I was like, well, how do you how do you create the like all all these little vaporous ways that people are trying to to uh, herd in attention and just just farm the fuck out of it. How do you actually create something that lasts that that survives the flows of the market? You have to make it real. And so I started funding these meme contests where 100% of proceeds went to the artists. We've done over 70 cents. Um, and that brought in real artists who had who resonated with what was being built. The DNA of Jungle Bay from the beginning, I've never taken any profit from it to date. Um, it's all been put back into the project. I've invested more because I view this as a very long-term project and people don't even believe that and that's that's good. Like they shouldn't. They should just watch by the actions. And now we have a half a decade under our belt and a lot of people that have lent a hand into contributing to this this force that represents something very different than these short-sighted immediate cash grab motherfuckers in the space. And it that DNA was a necessary foundational piece that you just can't make. It has to happen over time. That's why I always say DM plus T dank memes plus time, which is obviously a nod to DMT, the life molecule, you know what I mean? It it it needs that element. And some people don't want to wait and that's fine. But we we did and a lot of people showed up and they've been making art and they've been making new additions, new layers to this idea, this metaphorical Jungle Bay Island, you know, an island in the sea of rugs. Um, and now since then, there's been a a ton of substance and a ton of real lore embedded in the process. And through that, I've been low-weething the floor and finding people that I thought were positive forces in the space. And I reached out to them. I said, yo, like, I'd like to gift you a Jungle Bay. And it's like the longest white list ever, right? It's how a white list should be. Not go here, do some cartwheels in this Discord for fucking 20 days and then you you get in. Nobody has a any sort of connection to that. It's kind of people [21:02] Okay, but hold I don't want I don't want you to I'm going to stop you just for because I don't want you to because I have a question on that. Why [21:10] [Guest: Sakasa] Yeah. [21:11] So you you you bought the entire project for 20 for 20 ETH. It's a lot of money at the time. [21:18] [Guest: Sakasa] Yeah. [21:19] You must have bought more did you buy some of the NFTs off the marketplace or no? [21:26] [Guest: Sakasa] No, these were when I'm gifting these, these are all bought by out of pocket. [21:31] No, no, no. What I mean is was that bought within the 20 ETH or were you buying the other NFTs separately with your own money? [21:38] [Guest: Sakasa] Separate NFTs with my own money. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. It was ownership of the project, control of the project with the 20 ETH, the Discord, the gnosis. [21:47] So basically 20 ETH was for the all the NFTs. [21:50] [Guest: Sakasa] Yeah. And then also the the royalties, which are fucking they got slashed by um OpenSea and and people topped that shit off and it's nothing, right? But you know, but someday it could be something, right? And um, and so the the ones that were gifted, that's that's all out of pocket and that really is just from a philosophy of like for people to care about something and really genuinely work toward it. They got to have skin in the game. [22:15] But why but why gift people why gift people the Jungle Bay NFT? [22:22] [Guest: Sakasa] Yeah. [22:23] What what why why gift it? Because for for from my standpoint, I I can understand if if you know the person, hey, I I can understand both. I can I can I get it from both sides. [22:34] [Guest: Sakasa] Well, there's a lot of people doing a lot of shit in this space, right? And they're in different corners, they're in different clusters. I [22:40] No, but let me let me just land this. I want to before you answer this, I just want to say I want to ask you because most people when they get something for free, they don't value it. [22:43] [Guest: Sakasa] Yeah. [22:50] Correct. Like when you buy something, people value it, right? Because you bought it with your own money, right? When you're when you when you get something for free, it's usually even if you get a Lambo for free. I don't think people pretty much have whatever, I got something for free, right? Like it's just I'm not saying they won't care about it. It's just that [22:56] [Guest: Sakasa] Correct. [23:09] I totally they care about it more if they paid for it. [23:12] [Guest: Sakasa] I totally agree with that philosophy, right? And that's why when I reach out to someone, I'll go through my wallet, I'll think about them and I'll be and I'll pick out some of the ones that I have that I think might vibe and I say, which let me know which one of these speaks to you most because either way, these are memetic symbols. They're memetic assets that are tied to something, right? And when people see a a an aura that's materializing around this and they understand that they hold a piece to it, a piece of equity in it. Um, it like they're there is something to be said about I'm reaching out because I see somebody doing something unique or or or that's that's visionary or even just like somebody that's really shows up and is a supporting force in a in a fucking group of of mostly gutter rats. It's a recognition. So it's not like it hasn't been earned. It hasn't been purchased, but the context in which I'm reaching out is that I'm acknowledging somebody doing something dope. And I would love to have them on the island. And sometimes you can't force somebody to buy something, you know, there has to be authentic. So you need to, you know, that you need to give a little bit of some sort of show of faith. And it hasn't always worked out. Some people fucking take the scraps, the weath and shit and I was wrong, right? But through that process, I've met a growing group of like built different motherfuckers that have shown up and done stuff for the island that has been far more valuable than the initial, you know, uh, gift value. You know, and and that I I there's no other way to get someone's skin in the game. So it's not like I'm just like, hey, here's a giveaway. It's like I'm reaching out to someone directly. I'm making the context understood. And if that resonates with them and they feel motivated to dig in deeper or whatever, if they want to grab more because cool. But there's no expectations. I always make that clear too. You know what I mean? And so because you can't force people to to care about something. It's just the reality. [25:17] But do you do you feel being that you've been in the space for quite some time and you've obviously, you're friendly with a lot of people here. Um, you you you figure out a way to I don't want to I I said this to you on Friday. [25:35] [Guest: Sakasa] To relate. [25:37] Yeah, I I I think the I think the politician thing could uh, be the wrong word to use, but [25:42] [Guest: Sakasa] It's not politician because it's because it's because it's to understand. [25:45] No, no, no, I'm not No, but No, no, I'm not saying that that's what I'm saying. Like I I don't I don't think you I think you're I'll use your word. I think you're able to relate with a lot of people. Even if if some people can't relate with each other. But the same people that you relate with who have known about this project, who've known that you've been trooping it out and have done nothing to support it. How how can you sit there and just like

[Part 4 of 6] [David] [00:01] How can you sit there with a cool face on, man? Like, I I I really, it it really, for me, I can do it too. You know what? From one standpoint, I I I I'm I've been there, done that. [Guest: Name] [00:13] I've watched you do it. You don't give a fuck. If people are not going to support, you're going to prove them. I I there's you can't change people. You can't show them. You can lead a horse to water, blah blah blah, right? You can do that. But otherwise, if it's not dank enough to make it undeniable, then it then my job or our job as as the people on the island just isn't complete yet. And if people are short-sided, they can't [David] [00:38] So you see that as you see you see that as a as like silent feedback? [Guest: Name] [00:42] I see it as fuel. It's fuel. It's just fuel. [David] [00:45] No, but like besides the fuel, because we as entrepreneurs, you get that you won't tell anybody, but the fuel, it just like if I'm already fueled up, you're just adding more to it. But is that silent feedback? [Guest: Name] [00:56] Well, yeah, there's a lot of these topical friends. There's a lot of topical friends. People that I, you know, you reach out to, you support, and then all of a sudden, but like then then it's like where's the friendship? If I'm if I'm if I have an expectation that it's going to be reciprocated, then I'm just expecting that everyone's going to going to view it through my lens and I I can't do that. It's not fair. People come from different experiences, they come from different trajectories, they're on different paths. And but it is an indicator that maybe I should swerve from, you know, allowing this motherfucker to to occupy some bandwidth and keep it pushing. You know what I mean? And that's that's just um it's just a necessary element in the equation. [David] [01:34] You know why I say these things to you, Sakasa? Because you can't tell me when when people say, well, I don't have time for it, right? Like hypothetically, if somebody said, I don't have time for it, right? But you have and I know this space very well, as do you, right? You can't tell me you don't have time for it, time to open up a space for it or time to even acknowledge it when you're out there doing Jerry Springer shows. So all I'm saying is, here you are, you know, you relate with everybody. You you try to, you know, make everybody feel at home, regardless. And yet, maybe just maybe acknowledge the the shift for two to three minutes. And then go on with your three to four-hour battles. No, I'm I'm just throwing it out there. [Guest: Name] [02:21] I see you hosting spaces. You don't ask people to retweet the room. I don't ask people to retweet the room because I don't fuck again, it's it's a different philosophy. A lot of people do, they start like like policing everybody in the room. You didn't retweet like that is forcing something that is not authentic. And so if it takes more time to generate that authenticity based on demonstrating action compared to everybody else in the space, then that's what's required. If there are people who who read between the lines, who can kind of recognize early that there's a difference between how that operates how that character trait is compared to a lot of these announcement to the announcement bros and a lot of these vapor fucking hurting uh, you know, momos, uh, then that's that is what it is. It is what it is, but it's not going to be us forcing people to care. That that's not that's not a a sustainable or like sturdy foundation to scale on. [David] [02:52] Correct. [David] [03:24] When was the first time you thought about quitting? [Guest: Name] [03:29] Uh, fuck, man. Probably probably top of 2023. Shit was just, you know, it was it was dismal. Because the the floor of Jungle Bay was probably a 0.003 ETH. Um, I was I was putting a lot into these meme contests. I was bringing together artists. I was pumping the the the the memes with with it. Um, I was, you know, actually mid-2023. And it was just like it just seemed like this was a it was still a joke, like people were appeasing it when there was, you know, a cash prize involved, but beyond that, it wasn't it wasn't real. But that through that whole time, I started developing this memes by uh memes by uh Jungle Bay and MF's artist, the first collection we did with like collaborative with a bunch of different artists. And it was really dope because people spent time and they made these really sick pieces at the time, especially to just because they resonated with what I was doing. And and so just having this growing group of artists and creators compared to anywhere else that were doing it literally just for the the the fucking island and just for the vibes of what we were trying to cultivate, it it it fuels through a lot of this. And also, I expected three to five years of very difficult conditions. It's a monkey project. It's it's you know, people think it's a deriv of whatever. They don't they don't understand like the aura that comes with the the history and the proof of work on chain and on the timeline is is an element that has to be earned and that requires time. So I knew that and that was always the driving philosophy. So while it was expensive at time and whatever and it really was thankless, um, it was factored in from the outset of what will be required. [David] [03:37] Why? [David] [05:26] And people used you and and the Jungle Bay artist for their own personal benefit. But and that was cool because it benefit it benefits the artist, obviously. [Guest: Name] [05:38] Some artists got some great opportunities off it, which is great, right? [David] [05:41] But long term, did it it didn't benefit Jungle Bay? [Guest: Name] [05:46] It didn't, but you know, with what we're doing with Memetics.wtf and Memetics.finance, which is essentially taking 12 projects that are all memes with roots that have gotten raped through the market, tossed aside by the volume bros. Now they're back where they need to be, right? A lot of them are lower market caps. I mean, Pepe is in that mix, Banker is in that mix. That's not in the same bucket, but there are some memes there where there are there's really dense roots tied to them and people just think that they're they're dead. Meanwhile, they are never going anywhere. They're a part of the island. And so it's giving people that resonate with the island the opportunity to get the right type of exposure for relatively low investment. And that's how you establish a real holder base that can sustain pumps, not the people that are just fucking chasing these green candles and then they're ready for the the the the target to flip it. They don't give a fuck. That's just a part you have to go through that that entire process to get to a part where you can you can really build a foundation and and a holder base that has the fortitude to hold because they believe in something. And that's what the heat score with Memetics.wtf. I don't know any other project that's done this, right? What we have is the ability to measure over 4.5 million transactions on chain. We've done through all these data points, Solana, Base, ETH, Robin Hood coming soon. And and Robin Hood's live on Memetics.finance. But basically, it measures how much you've held of each of these tokens on the island on Memetics.wtf. And it's how long. The logic is is weighted by time. Size has an influence on it, but if you came and bought $10 million of of Bobo or Banker yesterday, you would have a lower heat score than someone that held a you know, a thousand dollars or or even $100 of Bobo and DRB and Banker for the past 200 days. And that's by design. So it's really just time is an indicator of belief, an indicator of reliability. And that is the best filter to be able to actually grow something meaningful and scalable. [David] [08:06] What do you think saved uh Jungle Bay? And I'm I'm doing the timeline here because I asked you when did you feel like, you know, giving up on it? And then I I kind of want to know when did you sit back and and what was the moment that saved it for you? [Guest: Name] [08:20] I'll tell you what. So during during these meme contests, right? Like we would have these these sessions afterwards and you would host some of them and and we would just go through the art. And and these were during times that were very difficult with the market. And I realized like it's a hack to be able to have these memes that make you laugh and make you feel shit and make you enjoy why we're here to pass the time when you can't affect the tides. And I think a lot of people get desperate, they get they get driven to make impulsive decisions, they sell good bags because the mind share isn't focused there at the at that time. And that's how they go belly up. But when you have the memes and you have the art as the engine that's that's that's driving this and people don't give a fuck about the the actual price. They care about what they're cultivating together as a as a group. It's it's motivating. That is a vibe, an energy that um we decided to lean into. And I think that has started to pay back in dividends by just um having built a community, like an actual community, not the deluded version that has been completely washed up, um by everyone saying community, community, community, like it's all bullshit. Like you community, you need time, you need shared struggle, you need overcoming obstacle, you need a a shared shared goals. These are things that have been crystallized on Jungle Bay Island with a growing group and and that is something that fueled when those little indicators that people were showing up. They don't give a fuck about anything but the art. The art is is undeniable and it and it continued to amaze me what these people who were contributing art were capable of doing. And I just thought like this is how we do it. This is this is how we's got to push through these times, you know, so that was really it. [David] [08:16] Yeah. [David] [10:24] War against the ruling slop overlords. What is a slop in 2026 crypto culture and who wins that war? [Guest: Name] [10:35] Slop is the is the first prompt puppets. The first prompt puppets. Yo, yo, Suno, make me something dope that is going to make this sound great. Yo, Grock, make this awesome, please. Yo, yo, Grock, make this make this show uh this this symbol in a in a way that makes it look like it's winning and and uh and make it make it slop. I don't know. Whatever fucking lazy ass unimaginative prompt that it takes to generate mid slop. That has overwhelmed all this cat meta bullshit. Like suck my dick. You're not going to you're not going to trick me out of nothing with these just because they got a bunch of volume bros pumping these these dangling carrots on trajectories. Like it's all fucking bullshit and it's all a trap. And so what we're doing on Jungle Bay, like we're harnessing a lot of these AI tools, but the quality is undeniable because the artists and the the new AI artists, which is definitely a real thing, like they understand how to deconstruct what the art of the prompt is and to harness that shit and and and create absolute sorcery with a lot of the which is this is the dopest part. A lot of the original art, the hand-painted art, the hand-drawn art from the island have been harnessed by these AI artists and turned into video experiences. So you're having layers of collaboration organically materializing. And there it's it comes off the seed, the the inspiration from the original art and then it's it's there's new dimensions breathed into it by these people that care about it and and and take the time to make it real and different and and and impactful in this fucking sea of slop that has like I'm seeing, I don't want to name names, but I'm seeing a lot of these projects that just like, oh man, like I'm I'm I'm so fucking wise. I'm using Higgsfield like one one time. Okay. Like like yeah, Higgsfield is impressive. Like can you make it into something that's going to fucking stick in someone's subconscious and make them feel something and make them compelled to be a part of what's what's what's happening. You know what I mean? Like it's just people are putting shit on autopilot. And I want to speak to um if it's okay. [David] [12:59] Hold on. I'll let you I'll let you have as much air time as possible. I just want to I want to get these questions in because I want people to know your story. I want them to know about Jungle Bay. And I want them to know the struggle because it all looks great now, but a lot of them weren't here for the struggle. A lot of them didn't watch you struggle. A lot of them didn't watch you drop. [Guest: Name] [13:22] I'm not [David] [13:23] Forget about me. This is about you. Forget about me. There's nothing to do with me. [Guest: Name] [13:26] Some of my best friends, some of my best like friends in the space, people I've stood out for, put my neck out, whatever it is. They they they all quiet or they talk some bullshit in back channels. All this bullshit. You were one of fucking maybe uh two handfuls of people that did not give a fuck about saying, yo, I'm I'm down with the island when it was not cool to be. And I'm all [David] [13:51] A lot of people ask me, why the fuck would I go and open up spaces and waste my time or use my time to push out these contests and all? Shut the fuck up. I do whatever I want. I walk to my own beat. You already know how I like if I really like something and like it's it's not even just yeah, I guess from that standpoint too. I liked it. I liked it exactly where you were going. I knew how long it would probably take you because I know it's not overnight. Yeah, listen, some people went overnight and congratulations to them. But for an entrepreneur, it's a fucking struggle, man. And I was like, yo, listen, man, like I'm not doing this to get anything back from you. Just like, okay, let's do let's let's let's go ahead and give somebody who actually deserves a platform a platform. And and let's showcase this shit. And you know, maybe one day like I I am it's kind of like, you know, my way of like onboarding people into crypto. Like if I go into that story. Like I I was doing grassroots marketing. I was just like, hey man, have you heard of Bitcoin? Have you heard and you just chop it up with somebody and and they would be like, oh, sure, okay, okay, I'll look at. And I felt the same way. Like, listen, I have a platform, right? What what's the what is the point of having a platform if you're not going to use it for good, kind of thing. And that and that's how I felt. And especially when it's when it's your one of one of the coolest cats you've met on on the scene. That that that you know what, like fuck it. Like let's let's go ahead and let people see this. My thing to you though, because this is not about me, it's about you, Sakasa. And I'm trying the reason why like I'm I'm trying I'm making sure, I want to ask certain questions and I want you to go ahead and just fucking talk about this because it is it was a five-year struggle up until this fucking point. Five years. It took you five years to get to the point where people are now rocking Jungle Bay NFTs in their PFPs. And and that to me is [Guest: Name] [14:08] You shut the fuck up. [Guest: Name] [14:24] No. [Guest: Name] [14:48] I'm providing [Guest: Name] [15:17] You [Guest: Name] [15:47] Yeah. [Guest: Name] [15:58] Which is the dopest thing to see. Like honestly, out of all the things to to have people not give a fuck. They probably they probably find themselves in certain spaces where someone will have something to say because they don't understand that this shit is doing what it's doing. They don't give a fuck, dude. They understand what the island represents. And like [David] [16:16] And now you have you have people opening up spaces. So this is where I this is where I want to go. And then I'll let you talk listen, man, you'll have the mic. I promise. [Guest: Name] [16:29] Yeah. [David] [16:31] You and I'll get to that also with the Bela and the and the spaces opening up with the PFPs, people people are taking Jungle Bay, you know, NFTs and putting it they're making them their their own personality and that's cool to fucking see. Do you feel that Bela added this is my take, I think, but I could be wrong. Uh, do you think Bela added some next level Memetic spirit to the island? Forget about the token price or anything like that. I feel like Bela added something to the island that took it to the next level. [Guest: Name] [16:46] It's fucking dope. [Guest: Name] [17:18] Bela is the muse of Jungle Bay Island. And why that added the the missing piece, the the soul, there was a lot of soul there, right? With the contributions, but the muse as a concept, and this is before Meta's muse and whatever, right? We've been talking muse for many years. Shout out Alpha Centauri Kid because he really like crystallized the muse concept and and Parachika. The thing about a muse, it doesn't matter if you're a spaces host, it doesn't matter if you're a coder, it doesn't matter if you're a welder, it doesn't matter if you're a video game developer. Whatever it is that that imbues you with that divine vision that other people don't have, the the the clarity of a an original thought that you can actually put into action. That is a universal resonant universally resonant concept of the muse. And so to give that a personified representation on an island of people that have clearly been speaking and sitting with their muses, it was the missing puzzle piece to this having the entirety of of the Memetic representation that it it deserved. [David] [18:35] I feel personally, I don't even care about the token price. I feel like the island even though it was already leveling up. I feel like the island went to a different level with with Bela. And I I can't explain it. But like as I watch it, I feel like it it it did take it to the next level. [Guest: Name] [18:53] It did. [Guest: Name] [19:02] I love that not one motherfucking NFT, oh, you know, those stupid fucking slop posts. These are the 10 NFTs I'm buying and whatever, right? Jungle Bay has never been included in those. They're talking about these decayed projects that nobody showed up for still. [David] [19:18] But why why aren't they being included in those top 10? [Guest: Name] [19:22] I don't know, but that shit burns the fuck up. [David] [19:23] But hold on. But your your friends, you're you're cordial with the people putting out these lists. [Guest: Name] [19:33] Yeah, and so that is an indicator right there, right? That and and that's fine. But I I I don't want to veer off from, you know, what you were saying with with with Bela is this this piece, this mechanism to kind of have the token representation and have it um be something that it it represents the muse as like a like Bela is a very commercial universal thing. She can be edgy and and I mean, Big Stace made her thick as fuck, which was dope, right? She's sexy and thick as fuck. Um, but you also have things that would resonate with with kids that would that that where it's like a very like the idea of this muse is this this aura of a of a like a beautiful creature that's just like a is cute and and and enjoyable, right? Like there's there's a there's a dynamic way that this can be amplified. And so to have the muse and Bela as the as the driver and the representation, I wanted to have something that was different. Um, and and I wanted to have something, you know, melodically, like my daughter's name is Lela, right? And melodically, I love that the sound, how it feels to say the word. And so with Bela, obviously, Jungle Bay and then that the not to her, everything that we do from a Memetic standpoint considers the layers down to the roots. And so it was important that what we did felt different, felt new. I didn't want to do like, you know, coconut or island or jungle token or whatever the fuck. Like it had to be something fresh and different, but that resonated and didn't take 10 fucking steps for someone to immediately understand. It had to to have the power to do that on its own. And I believe that Bela does with um, you know, the tool to hand. And the other thing I will say is I'm I'm really glad that shit didn't pop off in two years or whatever that we had to have this fucking blood and mud experience because the tools, the timing is fucking potent right now. It's ripe to do what the fuck we need to do. And we didn't have that at our disposal. It wouldn't have birthed an entire fucking class of new real artists if we didn't have these tools available to us. So I just I'm in in hindsight, you know, as we kind of reflect on it all, I'm I'm grateful that it took fucking five years to start leveling up in a different way. [David] [20:08] I've seen that. [David] [22:10] When you um when you see all the you you have to sit back and look at all the people that are rocking the Jungle Bay uh NFTs in their PFPs. A lot of people that have I would say a good platform that are that have switched up and now rock a Jungle Bay in their PFPs. What does that mean to you? Because they're not being forced to do so either. And do you also feel like you know what, I should have asked this question first. Do you feel like let me let me go with this one. Do you feel like Jungle Bay is a is a place for those who have been absolutely destroyed in crypto? Do do you see a lot of people who have, you know, participated in all this fuckery making their way to Jungle Bay and and then they finally feel like they found a home? [Guest: Name] [23:10] You you said it really really uh perfectly there because people are exhausted by these extractors, manipulators, deceivers, all the the snake oil salesmen, all the types of people that are super charismatic and have lured each of us in our own lane in history into these extract extraction events. And so I think people have observed in contrast what Jungle Bay has been doing, what the DNA of the island is. And they resonate with it as a as a like what it represents is finally an option that they that that it that that has earned something, a place that's different than anything else, right? And so I I think that that is something that I as I sit and watch this happening and I'm like, fucking this all was it this all was worth it. This all was worth it. Like to see that happening as like probably the best honor you could have is somebody that's like stamping their Memetic extended identity to be representing whatever the aura of a token and a project and what it represents that that that many people are resonating with it is is fucking dope. And I don't take it lightly. And that's why like I'm fucking shipping GitHub commands on in my fucking as the Tesla's driving on the fucking 405. I told you that last week like I'm I am not going to give this opportunity a chance to escape our grasp. And it's not just me, dude. It's it Jungle Bay Island is way bigger than me by this point. There's contributors that have built insane shit. Log ground with Jungle Bay Island.com. Reason for Memetics.finance and spearhead in that. There's countless there's countless people that have built major fucking pillars of the island and have given it the uh value prop that you can't buy. And that's the thing. I see these like meta, these new metas, these whatever it is come up, huge market caps, a lot of fucking flashy shit. I just know it's TikTok bitches. TikTok bitches. You can't replicate half a decade of real work and proof of work over time. You just can't. That's our special sauce. [David] [25:36] How are you going to these are just real questions. Like I'm not, you know, I'm not going to give you the soft bullshit. I don't do that anyway on this show. Um, but how are you going to defeat the cabal? Because at the end of the day like, you know, you I I believe that you're you're you're cooking 100%. I would tell you otherwise. And and obviously I've already said this multiple times. I watch I watch Jungle Bay now. I I see a ton of people rocking again, uh, the NFT.

[Part 5 of 6] [00:00] he has a PFP. That to me, yeah. is where you judge where the project is. Forget about charts, forget about what Bayla is at right now. That's an opportunity if anything for everybody before the, you know, the bull market comes along. Which to me, I think it's 90 120 days until we flip bullish on the charts. Whatever the case is, you know, if anybody who's seeking a real project, again, this is not a financial advice, but if you're seeking a home on a real project and you take a look at this, you you you might want to go ahead and consider. But uh I I think that's the real barometer is where you judge on the on the side. [00:38] As long as you can handle the memetic power that comes with holding a Jungle Bay. Correct. Some of these bitches can't handle it. They'll short circuit. They'll be like, this is too much fucking energy for me. This is too much dankness. I need to I need to go get a a young a PFP that looks like a a young little boy or something like that. And uh and you know what I mean? And and and call it a day. Um but yeah, go ahead. [01:02] Do do you feel like how are you going like I know in my head, I have my own thoughts, obviously, but how like the cabal is the cabal, right? It's like a bunch of industry plants backed by VCs. Bottom line. And what they say, people follow. Like it's just it's it is it's set up that way. It's unfortunate, right? It sucks. Because you'd want to go ahead and be on the same playing field. Let's see, like let's look at everything and let's see, you know, let let's look at the quality. Let let's look at the build out. Let's look at the I know the word community frustrates you, but at the end of the day, let's look at the community who's really here and about that life. These motherfuckers don't have communities. It's just a bunch of people that jump in and they jump out. That's all it is. But they'll purposely leave good projects out of the list. [01:58] My thing is like how are you going to that's been glaring. How are you going to rise above that? Like what do you or at least do you have plans? [02:06] Yeah. So we have plans and it's not an announcement to announcement, it's already built. It's already built. It's improving, but it's already built. Memetics.finance. We have for radium and Jupiter. We have fully contained for the island. Swaps, LP, NFT lending. Everything you could fucking imagine that exists on any other protocol, except all of the fucking fees go back to the island. It's it it will hunt down and make sure that you have at least as good of a of a uh fee or price compared to any other swap. And all of the fucking proceeds go the fees go to the island, go to the LP providers, go to the stakers. So we have contained and this isn't like Poly's fucking PNDX bullshit where they just did a nice little cute front end thing and uh and then fucking pretended like they built an exchange. No, no, we actually did. It exists right now. Memetics.finance. Why anybody would go swap, you can swap any token there. Uh Robin Hood, uh uh base, soul, ETH right now. Why anybody would be swapping anywhere else when you're getting a better fee there or a better price there and you know that all of the fucking fees are going back into what we're building on the island. You must be retarded or a cuck or something like that. If that's the case, because there oh shit, I said the word. My bad. I didn't mean to get you. Did that get you kicked off Tik Tok? [03:36] Keep going. Keep going. [03:38] Okay. With with memetics.finance, when shout out Greenfer, like dude, Greenfer, he recognized over over uh almost a year ago what this opportunity could be and started developing memetics.finance. He and I blocked each other at one point because I he was crashing out. But still, he resonates so much with what the island represents. We were able to reach out, we were able to reconnect. I reached out via Discord. We had a call we we chopped it up. We like people go through their own issues and stuff. He I know where his heart is and he had developed something that was so impactful as a pillar to what is what what was it? It was another necessary puzzle piece with containing uh all of the the stuff. No, nothing is leaked off the island. So instead of people going to all these different uh, you know, major established exchanges or or or DFI exchanges or places you can provide LP. If you do it on the island, it's going back to something that you're invested in that is here for the meme economy and that has not none of these extract or overlord. People know me by now. I I needed this five years to show my fucking reputation and and character and what I actually am capable of in the face of very difficult times, holding like irresponsible sides of things and writing that shit down if it needs to be because we're not done yet. We're not done yet. And so when we reconnected and we've been honing it since, we have our claws going back and forth. We have a memetics.finance chat where people like Avis are given audits that are super helpful that are talking with global investors that honing this shit to where it needs to be perfect. The idea was Robin Hood 2020s or 2020, the COVID time. Robin Hood brought a whole new fucking class of traders and and and people doing options that never would have encountered it. Why? Because the app took into account memetic impact. The the the confetti, the the the green hues, the swipes, the the haptic feedback, the way that the experience was made it accessible for a new class of traders that all these stale platforms could not done, could not have done. And so what did they do? They made it accessible and easy. And so with memetics.finance, we have over 50 soul that's currently being provided to the to the to the Bayla pool alone. And and that is like one soul from this person, 1.5 from this person. People are realizing that they can get their LP, they can they can get a better fee and they can contribute to the island and earn. So aligned incentives is is the critical piece. But when you say how do we combat this larger cabal thing, you it has to be done organically in a real way, in a substantive way and eventually people are going to look up and be like, what the fuck just happened? How did these guys do all this? And so we are on that path right now. [03:37] Okay. [06:37] I think uh for um for Jungle Bay, in my personal opinion, I think it's expanding outside and I'm not saying that you haven't already, but to Tik Tok and to Instagram, Facebook, no matter what how you want to look at Facebook, there's still a huge amount of people. I mean, it's 50 everything that I just named is 50X of what X is in terms of um of an audience. So like when you when you go, you know, outside and you branch out, you're meeting people that don't know anything like they don't go on to X. You have to understand, there are a lot of people that do not go on to X because they don't like Elon. They don't like the politics. So they so they go on Facebook, they go on Reddit, speaking of politics, but they go on Reddit, uh they'll stay on Instagram, you know, they'll stay on Tik Tok. And I think that's the that's the audience that I think really if you want to beat the cabal, that's where you have to really uh set your sights on and go to in order to go ahead and really establish. [07:02] Yeah. [07:39] You were one of the the inspirations behind this, okay? Just so you know. I never told you this, but like I realized exactly what you just said. And so I also started fucking around with Grockbot and I started fucking around with Muse. And I was like, dude, these these tools have the ability to understand the full scope of the respective algorithms of the meta surfaces of X, of Tik Tok. And so what I have them doing is they've identified the international clusters that would most resonate with the type of art, the type of merch, the type of things that we're doing outside of Web 3, outside of our algorithm. Other languages. I have them offensively posting the links, replying strategically to to the right types of accounts in the other languages as we speak to break out of our algorithm and make Jungle Bay a globally resonant brand. And that is that again would not have been possible without being able to really dig into these tools, really understand their their flaws. Like Muse is not as good as Grock. But and but you can use Muse as an Intel gatherer to be able to really dig into No, you can use Muse on Facebook or Meta's Muse to to gather Facebook Intel that Grock may not have access to and then give it to Grockbot to assess and then to say, okay, he's right about this, whatever, whatever and then execute accordingly. And so I have Tik Tok, uh we have Tik Tok, Facebook, Instagram, threads, WhatsApp, YouTube that we now have these individual Grockbots traversing their these different algorithms, replying to strategic in all the languages that they need to be. And in the tone and the the type of finesse that that Jungle Bay needs to have to be consistent throughout all these languages. And again, like that's the beauty of the timing, right? To to be able to lean into these tools. I've heard you talk about this in depth as well. [09:47] I I I will say that uh Grockbot and, you know, uh AI agents, AI in general, obviously they help enormously. You you mentioned something about using Muse and uh Grock. Uh obviously, when you use Grockbot, it it's integrated into X. So you can figure out, you know, what's popping on the algorithms, right? Like what is really being talked about on X right now. And, you know, you know, you don't have to waste a post. You know, that that that's how I look at it. You know, like there are a lot of people that without before AI, people would just waste a post, right? You thought you were writing a really good post, but you know what, nobody's on at that time and nobody's really looking for said post. People are looking for something else. Or or it has to be tailored differently. In an SEO type of manner in terms of writing a post out. There are a lot of things that I've learned uh uh dabbling and obviously studying AI. [10:17] Yeah. [10:38] You don't have to. [10:52] One thing I would add to that, which you're spot on with everything you just said, is that a lot of people take things at face value. So it's like, they don't actually go through the the vetting process with their Grockbot or whatever Claude or whatever to to to put it on blast and say, is this the same fucking cookie cutter algorithm hacking thing that you're giving to everybody that says, I want to grow my audience, I want to grow my user base, I want to grow whatever. And usually the answer is, yes, this is the standard. So we need to, you need to have it then to go through extrapolating on what the landscape looks like when everybody has agents and be able to then after it extrapolates on that, incorporate that into the strategy. So you're ahead of the slop train. And that is something that I think people do not take the time to dig through. So they're just doing exactly what this thing is going to be telling everyone else to do. [11:52] I I think that um and I'm not just saying this, but I think that Jungle Bay will be okay. That that was a bar just now. But Jungle Bay will be absolutely okay. I I see a lot of the I see a lot of the new people that have joined and they've been using AI, some better than others respectfully. But that's okay. You'll learn. I learned. Uh but you're still providing content, which is still a good thing. But you have people I I'm not even name the person, but I I had a person reach out to me and ask me about how to put things together or or help them to understand AI or prompting a bit better. And they're dedicated to to the island. And and I just see like you know, the whole brick by brick analogy is real. It it really is. You really want to build it brick by brick and not all of a sudden and then everybody's gone kind of thing. I I I believe there will come a time where you will have a bunch of people with Jungle Bay uh uh you know, NFTs racing around Clubhouse and spaces making noises. The same way I remember that happening with Board. [12:17] Yeah. [12:34] Yeah. [13:07] Shut up, Decentraland. My dog Greenfer is still still still focused on eventually when that tech alliance to have that sync up. He's been building some shit there. I he thinks I don't take it seriously, but I do. The the tech and the metaverse and all that, it's going to align. And if you plant seeds and water them as this as the time goes by, then you're fucking acutely ready to to to capitalize on that wave whenever it inevitably uh is is more feasible for and accessible um for for any market participant. [13:40] People are asking for the rap battle. I'm we're going to have a rap battle. We we might be dropping a mixtape. Who knows? Um but I I do want to say this, if there is and trust if you've been following me, I do not say shit like this lightly, but if there are if there is a project or if there's a person I should say, because I usually for me personally, I invest into people. That's it. That's bottom line. And then the project respectfully is secondary. Not saying that it won't overtake the person eventually, but it's the person that you invest into, right? It's Elon. Like if Elon says I'm going to come out with something today, let's say the Amazon thing, since Amazon, you know, you know, Jeff Bezos and Amazon tried to shit on him. Elon said, I might create my own Amazon. You know everybody's ready to go ahead and throw money at at it. And it it it's because they understand that the person has the skill set to see it through. So that's something I I you know, this is not an endorsement, I guess, or it I don't even know what it is, but I would say that if there is a project out there that that deserves the platform. The platform for sure. It is 100% uh uh Sakasa. You know, if you want to go ahead and really if you if you've been fucked, I I'll land this. If you've been destroyed, been running around chasing dog shit, okay? And you just want to find a place where you can call home. And I know that might sound a little ish and like you're like, what are you talking about? If you just want to find a place where it's not just I I feel like it's more than just Jungle Bay and I feel it's more than just I I there there's a different energy there. And it might help you during this next bull market. I think you should find your way to the island. And I think you should go ahead and give it a chance. And I think you if you if you're all about supporting the real ones and real creators here and developers and builders, then find your way to the island. Because if you say that you're all about, you know, the builders, well, then you have no excuse. And some of the people that have been here [13:44] Oh. [13:51] Hey. [14:03] because I usually [14:51] You don't even need to say. [15:07] Hey. [15:11] I I [15:19] Yeah. [15:27] You don't. [15:30] It's not just [16:04] It's the place with the highest concentration of builders, dude. [16:07] There you go. And and the last thing I want to say is all the all the homies that Sakasa has supported, y'all might want to go ahead and throw up a space or two or maybe go and start supporting and pushing it like you push stranger projects. I'm just saying putting it out there. [16:27] Yeah, or don't. Like I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck. [16:30] You don't have to. [16:31] If they don't buy it, if they don't do it as a new investment. I I I appreciate the sentiment, dude. Like I and and the words. [16:37] You're not saying it. I'm saying it. [16:38] You don't know those. [16:39] I I don't understand how we can you know, it's the analogy that I've used before. It's when you know when you're working out, you you're overweight, you're out of shape. Maybe you're not overweight, you're underweight. Whatever it is, you know, you're you tape your journey. You take a camera and you start taping your journey at the gym. First day. Guess who starts laughing at you? Your friends. The the people that are supposed to be supporting you, friends and family, they're laughing at you. They're like, look at this person. What are you doing? They're laughing. Okay? No likes, no retweets, just laughing. Meanwhile, it's a bunch of strangers you don't know that are saying, good job, keep going. Love seeing it. Oh, that shit is encouraging me to go do it. It's always strangers. People that you don't know, but you get to know them, but you don't know in the beginning that are there supporting you where you would expect that it's the friends and family that would be there for the most part, supporting your journey. But that's life. So it's kind of like sometimes you can't expect the the real the the the the close ones to go ahead and support you. It's usually the people that you don't know that come through to elevate your shit to the next level. [17:03] Yeah. [17:45] Yeah. [17:47] That's that's the problem. [17:59] Yeah, and that's that's the damn problem. The ones that will be able to come in and benefit by having the foresight and the recognition to sift through the bullshit and recognize something different being cultivated like good. I I hope that anybody that like has their heart string struck by the glaring difference of what we're doing. Um is a is a beneficiary of that. And like, you know, when it comes to how we expanded out of just being a hype train between memetics.finance with which, you know, has fees to the island and also keeps it where people get better better uh rates when when they're getting the yield provided in LP. It doesn't matter if it's one soul or fucking 100 soul. Um even a swap, like these things you should be thinking about where you're putting every fucking penny that you're that you're doing it. And if you're letting fucking Uniswap or whatever taking your taking your fee instead of it going into something you're already invested in, like, what are you doing? What are you doing? And like we're doing memetics.wtf/bodega. We got we got all this fucking dope art and merch that people can put on fucking I you could do it on a candle, on a shirt, whatever the fuck it is, but but real dope shit from Jungle Bay artists. And what it what it does with that is you take soul, it buys Bayla to pay for it, it burns Bayla, it automatically sends a a a percentage of that Bayla to the artist and then it sends a smaller percentage to the island. And this is real real goods, real, you know, real world stuff. We got it on our Tik Tok shop launching next, but it's in memetics.wtf bodega. Worth checking that out. Um and uh and then also we got uh the second Jungle Bay artist collective album uh in all music streaming stores on Friday, October 21st, so this Friday. Um and this one is going to be uh me singing on them. But the idea is we've been fucking with the Spotify algorithm. The last album is doing pretty well. And um and people have been fucking with it. Jungle Bay artist collective. And Spotify algorithm is a very potent one if you can hit it right. And so what we're trying to do is to cultivate uh a launching pad where we can collaborate with different music artists and have that be something that is um that is that we're able to launch other artists with effectively. [19:27] Man, you are uh honestly, you're you're killing it, man. And I say that uh on the real, you are fucking killing it. All these things being added on onto the island. I'm sure the ideas [20:09] It wouldn't be nothing without motherfuckers like you and people on the island. I'm the key man risk is gone. Like there is that much contribution from other motherfuckers, dude. [20:50] I feel like that's it. Like you have so many there are so many people that are slowly making their way to the island that there are so many ideas and that's what you want, right? You you want group thinking and you're you're getting it and then some of these things really stick out and they're being, you know, put out there and that's a cool thing. And if it takes another year or two, that's fine. Like for me, you know, like you want to make sure that the foundation's bulletproof. [21:11] We'll be good. [21:17] Facts, dude. And thank you. [21:18] Congratulations. [21:19] As always, DG for your support, man. And um you like you you're unapologetic support when this shit was not uh not not fun or cool to do it. I know you did it just just because you are a real friend. And um you and I have had our own, you know, personal um friendship building through these years when I've seen you go, you know, take a lot of shit. Um that was that was malevolently tossed your way to people that you have done nothing but support. And uh I I have tremendous respect. I know what you're building with with uh with the multi-platform takeover that you're doing. I I see it, other people see it and it's going to be undeniable. You're you've been stacking bricks just just in a different lane than me, but just as fucking um forcefully and with the same velocity. I know that's going to pay off. So just big up everything that you're doing and continue to level up on. [22:12] Thank you very much. I appreciate it. We're both going against the VCs. I turned them down. We're both going against the VCs and the cabals that, you know, it is what it is. I enjoy doing this. I'm not doing this because I whatever. I'm not going to get into it. But I I enjoy doing this. I enjoy showing up, you know, for two hours a day, breaking down the news and bringing on people just like you. Uh, you know, people from you know, people from the I don't fuck. You made me you make me not want to say community because I'm scared. Uh but bringing people from the ecosystem. [22:45] They sold the community. We're going to take it back. Yeah. [22:50] Bringing people on from the ecosystem is cool, especially to showcase exactly what's being built out. And obviously, these shows are replayed on YouTube and Tik Tok and wherever else we stream to along with, you can catch it on Apple Podcast, Spotify, I Heart Radio and also Amazon Music amongst other, you know, podcast streaming platforms. Sakasa, you can catch him at_sakasa, lowercase S. Otherwise, he starts screaming. Again, at lowercase uh_sakasa. Uh, you can check out memetics.wtf. You can go to junglebayisland.com. [23:18] Yeah. [23:29] .finance. [23:31] Memetics.finance. Uh, I don't know. He he probably has a 94 other fucking URLs. [23:35] If you motherfuckers. If you don't even URL me or whatever. If you motherfuckers are not swapping whatever stupid ass token you want to do on memetics.finance, you are getting cucked by these VCs that have rinsed us from cycle after cycle after cycle. Believe in something. Let's fucking let's fucking go, dude. [23:56] Believe in something. [23:57] Believe in something. [23:58] Catch you can if you want to learn more about Jungle Bay, they have spaces open. I I I I come on to uh Twitter and I consistently see spaces open with the with either Jungle Bay in the title or it's either Bayla. Either or is in the title. You can go ahead and jump in there and you can ask a question. It's a friendly crowd. Uh it's a vibe. Go go fuck around and find out. Go give uh the founder here uh a follow. And um hopefully we can get you back and, you know, I don't know, during the bull market. We can go ahead and get you back. We can chop it up and see where uh [24:22] Yeah. [24:39] I tune in almost every single day. I love your show, bro. You know, I like to I like to I appreciate. [24:44] Even if you come in for two minutes, I'm I'm cool. [24:46] Yeah. Well, you don't. You don't. And uh and uh regardless of that lack of um mutual respect, you are still fucking making big moves. And uh we are fucking always behind DG on Jungle Bay Island. That's for fucking sure, dude. [25:09] I appreciate that. Thank you, C. Talk soon, my brother. [25:12] Uh, thank you for having me. [25:14] Much respect to you. [25:14] Always good to see you. [25:15] I'm glad that I got you into Tesla. We'll talk more about that on a space or what not, but appreciate you, brother. Thank you for coming on. [25:20] Yeah. [25:23] Thanks for that. Thanks for that. [25:24] Peace. [25:25] Now to Tesla. I appreciate him. Uh on that one. [25:28] I'll see you soon, dude. [25:31] Have a good one. Sakasa. That is Sakasa, ladies and gentlemen. Uh let's give him a round of applause. Sakasa is building out here in these streets. Yes. A bunch of people that have finally looked at Jungle Bay and finally said, you know what? Let me take a shot. Let me let me look into it. You know, again, I I wanted to I had more questions. Obviously, Sakasa talks so much. Sakasa really gets going. Sakasa really gets going, man. Uh maybe I'll save those questions for when we're on a space or something, but

[Part 6 of 6] [ 00:00] Uh, well deserved, especially the artists. Uh, you know, the artists started everything for Jungle Bay. You know, I I remember there being a group of really dope ass artists. And I just remember, you know, them getting work for for for, you know, for other projects and stuff like that. But it's still there was a a core group of artists which you need and which Sakasa needed obviously, which he built and and that that was cool to see and then watching people rock the PFPs. I I said what I felt. I feel like people have finally had enough and they're slowly trickling into the island because they're like, yo, man, like how how much how much more can I gamble out here on on these goddamn platforms? Man, how how much how many more times can I go and and just get fucking rinsed? And you have Jungle Bay. And like if you're looking at Bayless's price, I think you're absolutely missing the bigger picture. Most of the things that have done phenomenal haven't taken off immediately. So, to me, it's more of an an opportunity to not only get into something early, but also you get to participate in an environment which is welcoming. You got people that have arms wide open like Creed. All right? Willing to go ahead and have a conversation with you and willing to help you. A lot of these people have been through the block. They're willing to go ahead and help you. And you have Sakasa who's willing to go ahead and answer anybody's DM. I know that. Sakasa is a dude that is willing to go ahead and answer your DM. He's building for the right reasons. Like Sakasa is at the end of the day, building for the right reasons. Five years I've watched him. I've watched him like as as for as long as I've known him, I've watched him That's why I asked him, at what point did you want to quit? Because I watched him grind away. And not a single person or I don't want to say not a single person, but if only a relatively few in a big group would acknowledge what he's doing and the rest wouldn't. And it's it's what I say, like strangers clap for you and it and then friends and family, you know, it's almost like they come later. But he's done it the right way, right? So like what do I like I I tell you guys, like I'm building long-term, right? I I'm not looking for shortcuts. I'm looking for long-term. And the cool thing about Jungle Bay is that like you're getting a bunch of people. You you got a big ass think tank now. People that are act that actually appreciate the island, want to be a part of it, know where the potential is with it. And they're giving you their ideas, right? So now you have a bunch of people giving you ideas which benefit the island, make the island better, make the product better, and have and give the island a a chance to do phenomenal things. I'm telling you, watch when watch when they start moving to Tik Tok and Instagram and YouTube. You know, I I keep saying this, I love Twitter. I really do. I I've made my brand on Twitter. I've expanded now. It's hard because now people don't want to leave Twitter to go onto YouTube or onto Kick or whatever it is that I'm streaming. But it takes a few months and then people, you know, say, you know what? I I will tune into YouTube. I will tune in here. I will tune You just got to give people time. You got to allow the algorithm to adjust so new people come in and they see you and then, you know, people for them to adjust as well and say, you know what? I'll support David on YouTube or whatever it is. It it's when you're building that way, it takes time. It really does take time, but it's nice to see it it is definitely nice to see what's happening on the island. And on that, we'll be right back to finish up the show. We'll go ahead and look at what's happening with the midterms. We'll look at um I I guess any other news obviously, but we had Sakasa on here for about 50 minutes uh describing what Jungle Bay is. Actually more, more than an hour we had uh Sakasa on here. If you you guys missed it, you can go ahead and replay the show whether on YouTube, you can replay it on Twitter, you can replay it wherever, Kick, wherever you want to go ahead and replay it, you can replay it. Um I asked Sakasa some real questions. I think, I believe they were real questions. Um not some softball questions. I I wanted to just see how see how he thinks or see how he's thinking in terms of the island. Uh and what does he think about the space? I wanted to get into more about the space, but again, time constraints. Anyway, we'll be right back after this commercial break. We'll touch on actually, you know what? Let's do it now. Let's go ahead. Guys, if you have not downloaded Polymarket's application, you are doing it all wrong. Look, right now, if you download Polymarket's application, you put out put down the code breakdown, uh you get $25. $25 when you download Polymarket. If you're going to download Polymarket, regardless, then just use the code breakdown, okay? Use the code breakdown. That's right. Use the code breakdown to get $25. It's $25. Who doesn't want $25? Get yourself $25. Come on, man. What are we What are we talking about? What are we talking about, man? It's $25. Let's look at uh trending stories that matter. Let's go to um let's look at what's happening here. Midterm wise. Go ahead and pop that up here. I I still believe that the Republican Party will win, even though the odds are 100% stacked against them. Guys, if you're not watching what's happening in France, if you're not watching what's happening in Italy, I I don't know what to tell you, man. If you're not watching what's happening, you're crazy. You're crazy. The those are not peaceful protests and those things are going to come here to the United States of America. We got to protect this country at all costs. You got these Democrat socialists that want to bring this here. Anyway, Democrats right now, according to polymarket.us, Democrats have a 62% chance of controlling the Senate. Okay? That's a 62% chance of controlling the Senate. 61% chance the Democrats sweep the midterms. Again, I believe, I believe wholeheartedly, there is going to be a a win that comes from the Republican Party. They will definitely 100% be a win from the Republican Party. I think it it will shock people when this does happen. So you have right now though, from Polymarket, you will have the US House midterm winner being the Democrats at 90%. You got the Senate being won by the Democrats at 62%. So there you go. That's that's what you have currently right now on Polymarket, okay? You got people that feel that this is what's going to happen. I don't I really believe that I I don't believe that the American people want to have a bunch of communists start writing the rules for the American people. You guys do not want communism here. You do not want socialism here. Full-blown socialism, okay? I know people are going to hit me with, there is socialism already here. I get that a little bit, not the whole thing, not ripping capitalism apart and going full-blown socialism, okay? In the United States of America and then bringing on fucking communism. And then we got people that want to get into these positions that hate America, okay? That that that were happy about 9/11, right? Not my words. Go ahead and replay the tapes. I want to make sure that everybody realizes who they're fucking voting for. Make sure you realize who you're voting for. I feel there is the people, the Democrats that were voting for real old-school Democrats that had their candidate not win their primary, they're going to vote for a Republican. I see it happening. I 100% see it happening. Watch what happens, okay? And look, again, when it's time to vote, go out there and vote to save our country. Vote to save our country, okay? It is important. It is an important time right now for us, that doesn't matter what party affiliation you doesn't matter if you're a Democrat or Republican, it is time to make sure that our country does not fall like France or Italy. You see what's happening over there. It's absolute mayhem. If you think it can't happen, if you think it cannot carry over to the United States of America, just look at what's happening now. Slowly, the Democrat Socialist, aka Communist Party, is slowly creeping in. Give it a decade and America will look different if you let them come to power. Make sure you take it seriously. I get it. You don't have to like Trump, but if you love America, okay? Forget about Trump. If you love America, you'll make sure you you will make sure that we do not allow people with communist thoughts to start writing communist bills. That's all I'm saying. Think about that. Think about that. Anyway, welcome to the breakdown. This was episode 807. I hope everybody learned something today, okay? I broke down the news earlier today. I talked about Elon giving away $10 billion to the kids of America, okay? Every kid would have a share of SpaceX, okay? Uh and he said more to come as well and he encouraged his counterparts to also do the same as him. All right? So, love to see it. Love to see an entrepreneur like Elon Musk go out there without anybody telling him to go out there and do this. He's just telling people like, hey, this is what I'm about this is what I'm going to do. Shout out to Elon. Shout out to the flying car, okay? Even though you might not ever go ahead and drive one of the roadsters. I I'll get a road I'm probably going to get a roadster. I I I like it. Obviously, I'm not going to get the rocket, but I'm definitely down to get the goddamn thrust, okay? 100%. Down to absolutely get that version. Now, if you're going to ask me which one's prettier, the Porsche Mission S, absolutely, that shit is gorgeous, right? Like so which one would you get? To each his own, man. To each his own. Uh what else did I want to say? AI. You can get my book, okay? Book is on Amazon right now, the million dollar AI playbook, okay? Giving you tips at a basic level of hey, things you could do with AI, okay? It's in stores now. Shout out to the people who have DM'd me and said that they have copped a copy. Thank you so much. I appreciate you. The million dollar AI playbook. I got two books that I'm writing. Hopefully next year they'll come out. I don't know. But it's all about AI. Uh all about AI. That the things that I'm writing about are AI driven. I think AI is going to change everything. It is absolutely going to it's already changed everything. And but I like I've said, we are currently in the stage the timeline for AI is the same as Bitcoin in 2011. So you are early. You are early. I talked about this on spaces on Friday. I gave examples and ideas for those who are interested in, you know what? Taking their concepts and bringing them to life. Uh my quote of the day. Let me find you a quote of the day. Quote of the day from me today. I'm rhyming out here in this streets. I am rhyming out in these streets. Where is the quote of the day? Let's see. Let's see if Let's let's do this. If it makes you happy, go for it. They're going to talk about you anyways. All right? So let's keep it as that. If it makes you happy, go for it. They're going to talk about you anyways. And that's from Thomas Shelby. If you watch Peaky Blinders, great series. Love that series. Thomas Shelby says, if he if it makes you happy, go for it. They're going to talk about you anyways. And that is the truth. 100%. 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The Peaky fucking Blinders. That's right. I love that series, Peaky Blinders. Um, you got to have the mindset of Thomas Shelby, man. I'm not talking about the other shit, but the mindset. Got to carry yourself a little bit like Thomas Shelby for the men out there. Anyway, 807. We'll be back tomorrow with 808. We got a we got a good we got a good month of people coming on. November is a good month, December. Uh, man, it'll be it'll be great. You guys can tune in from all streaming networks and channels and platforms. We're everywhere. I'm just trying to get verified on YouTube. Yo, somebody help me with this YouTube shit, man. Somebody help me. Anyway, million dollar playbook. You can go ahead and get that, the AI playbook. You can get that on Amazon. On that note, have a great day and an even better tomorrow.